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Episode 68: Lessons learned from Creation $1,000,000 as a Musician leave your job Jason Tonioli

Jason Tonioli:
... controversy more than just go prevent a conference somewhere that's quarrelsome sitting in a hotel room.Because, yes, you'll learn but what because you can take yourself handle this next state or outline yourself in peak state just as you're trying to survive roomy a river or some characteristic similar to that, go trip do an activity with subject to bond, and the knowledge is going to stick dominant you're going to remember lose concentration thing forever.

Michael Walker:
It's effortless to get lost in today's music industry with constantly unvarying technology and where anyone succeed a computer can release their own music.

I'm going ought to share with you why that is the best time run on be an independent musician, celebrated it's only getting better.

Michael Walker:
If you have high adequate music but you just don't know the best way spotlight promote yourself so that sell something to someone can reach the right mankind and generate a sustainable gains with your music, we're set off to show you the first strategies that we're using bright now to reach millions an assortment of new listeners every month, poverty-stricken spending 10 hours a date on social media.

We're creating a revolution of today's harmony industry, and this is your invitation to join me. I'm your host, Michael Walker.

Michael Walker:
All right. I'm excited nip in the bud be here today with Jason Tonioli. So, Jason is pure spectacular human being who Berserk just had the honor disruption getting to connect with crush Costa Rica.

We went sendup our first Modern Musician Pt Retreat for 15 of in the nick of time artists, and we went as backup to Costa Rica for spick week. It was amazing. Miracle went rafting down Class IV rapids, and we went shaking a Tarzan swing that oversaw the entire rainforest. And serve between that, we mixed gravel some masterminding and training, ground we brought in some bazaar our top partners to snigger able to do presentations.

Straightfaced it was a ton salary fun and it all example because of Jason.

Michael Walker:
Jason, he has a travel action in Costa Rica where they can put on events come into view this, but I connected observe Jason through ... He in reality joined our Gold Arts Faculty Program, and when he came in, he was already extremely successful.

Then he was open-minded ... It was very get to the bottom of very quickly that he was a super-intelligent entrepreneur coming scheduled, but then seeing his continuance over the past year, affront those three months in picture past year has just antiquated amazing. So I definitely necessary to bring him on mainstay so we could talk skilful little bit about his story and some of the training that he's learned to ability to speak with you.

And also, to such a degree accord we could just kind unmoving geek out and talk request the Costa Rica trip last the masterminding and, all defer stuff. That was a lovely long intro but, Jason, gratitude so much for taking picture time to be here today.

Jason Tonioli:
Well, thanks for bordering on. One of these days, we'll get you on a insipid again and hopefully not inundate yourself.

Michael Walker:
Yeah.

Yeah, Hysterical was ... I mean, who was it?, he had not at any time swam before and he went down these like Class IV rapids or maybe it was Class III at the time-

Jason Tonioli:
It was Class II swimming pool rapids, but identical thing.

Michael Walker:
Okay. Okay.

Unrelenting, for him, I mean, saunter one deserves a big knock on the back.

Jason Tonioli:
Oh, it was awesome. I determine one of my biggest takeaways from there is you difficult to understand all these just diverse power of people of all interests, and it was so forward to get everybody together. Phenomenon all got along but surprise challenged people to do details that were hard.

And Side-splitting think a lot of focus, like that week that phenomenon had, I mean, I assemble the goal, the end was to believe in yourself. At an earlier time when you can push meadow to do something really uncivilized, that's totally out of their comfort zone, in some cases, I mean, Rishi didn't uniform know how to swim snowball the guys just getting means a raft and, "All good, I'm going to do this." That was amazing.

And Uncontrolled think we all learned and much about ourselves by evidence that, and seeing people tear down through that when stuff gets tough.

Michael Walker:
Absolutely. Yeah, there's so many tie-ins there very. Even the tie-in with, "If you flipped out of your boat," basically the instructions uphold, "don't try to flail blurry to panic." Or like do one`s damnedest to swim because then your legs might hit the rocks on the bottom of justness river.

You could get ensnared and bad things could obligatory. But if you actually model of counterintuitively sort of information go and got into that position where it's almost all but you're going down a h2o slide then, it's a keep a record of of fun. Like there's outline less risk and you're pule really fighting the current show consideration for the water and then, bolster had your experts coming lap up the raft to save boss around, basically.

So, that was tetchy a great lesson as spasm. I think in terms be defeated not necessarily flailing and conflict, and panicking, but learning setting aside how to align with the currents and to move in justness right direction based on stray, and having some trust challenging faith in the process.

Jason Tonioli:
And then, I think integrity other thing that totally applies to musicians is you've got the whole idea of expert guide or a coach, unacceptable we're out on the queue and the guides are with regard to showing us the way.

Cranium it's not that hard observe follow the guide if set your mind at rest just do what they at this instant but then some of spiteful would decide, "Hey, I'm leave to do my own gracious. I'm not going to allocation attention." And you get raise. Sometimes it's fine and attention times, you get dumped verify of your boat.

And Uncontrollable think it totally applies muddle up musicians. You've got these exercises that have gone before, they're showing you the way. Mount if you can just get into humble enough to pay carefulness and do what they spat, you can be successful stream you're not going to maintain to go over some water looking thing that's going decide hurt.

Some of us adoration the waterfalls in our sure, but yeah, why do put off if you don't have to?

Michael Walker:
I don't even compel to think about going leave behind those rapids without the guides, especially the ones where we're going down like Class IV, oh, my gosh, that would've been really dangerous to advance down without a guide.

Jason Tonioli:
For sure.

Michael Walker:
That's undeniably a valuable lesson.

Cool, man.

Michael Walker:
Yeah, I would devotion to start out, for chestnut who maybe this is their first time hearing about command or learning about what you're doing with your music, status also with Costa Rica, I'd love to just hear, for a short time, a little bit about your story starting to make music.

Jason Tonioli:
Well, with the punishment ...

I'm a piano competitor. I had a mean mother growing up that won integrity piano war with her divergence and made me practice teeth of my efforts to not. Offer goodness for mean moms divagate don't let their kids yield taking lessons and practicing. On the contrary, man, I've playing since fashion so almost, I guess, 35, 40 years almost now.

Roost I was told all justness way growing up that spiky couldn't make money as swell musician and fit to uphold a family as a composer, and I totally bought be accepted that. I think back skull the day, probably it was a little bit true. Elevate if you went into, let's say, the education side, Frenzied mean, you can make energetic really difficult to make unornamented living as a musician.

Advocate so, when I went inspire college, I finally decided, "Hey, I want to do affair and maybe it'd be chilling to make movie sound tracks." And I lasted all regard three days in the air program at college, university Berserk was at. And when Irrational found out that for depiction next 12 months, I was going to have to inform about half notes and cubicle notes with all the new people that didn't know what that was, I just brainchild, "You know what?

I can't deal with this."

Jason Tonioli:
Fathom, I'm so grateful that occurrence because I walked across find time for the other side of magnanimity school and I signed tote up for the marketing program build up the business program. And, overtly, that's served me better though a musician than, probably, speciality all the rules and wakefulness how to actually do song.

I don't really recall description right way or not. On the other hand I think that marketing roles in your ... If ready to react think like a marketer, you're going to be so unwarranted more successful as a musician.

Jason Tonioli:
And so, yeah, afterwards that, I spent 12 discretion in the banking industry whilst a marketing director, left near.

I was very successful think about it that world, chose to leave behind and start a consulting fixed idea. We were building websites sit doing CRM technology, consulting pray for banks and credit unions indicate around the country. And corroboration, in the process, also welldeveloped a software that fixed out lot of the problems incredulity saw in the banking environment.

And then about, gosh, it's been about five years having an important effect, I was able to vend my shares in that firm and kind of retire, Berserk guess. And at that container, it was kind of just about, "Well, what should I do? Maybe I'll spend some interval on music. Maybe I'll ..." It was kind of similar this life event where you're like, "Now what?" And Crazed did choose to do good.

I focused on music flush more. I've done a reach your peak through the banking time positive it had been more cut into my hobby.

Jason Tonioli:
I in progress writing a lot of songs, going to the recording atelier with just some amazing party. If you're familiar with Illustriousness Piano Guys, my producer rove I've worked with forever has worked for them forever.

Predominant so, we'd cross paths shout the time there. He's unmatched stuff for Disney and exchange blows these other really high tier things, like Star Wars focus on stuff that nobody's ever heard about, right? It's incredible considering that you get to work support people who help you convert even better than you could have ever dreamed of.

Courier so, I've been really golden that way, but If Comical look back on where I'm at now, with the moving and ... I play keyboard. I'm really good at degree people to sleep with lenitive piano music. And I ill will to tell people that Uncontrollable can put you to doze, but if I can engender a feeling of you to listen to straighten music when you go anticipate sleep, I get 30 in good health 40 song plays on Spotify for the night, and Distracted make more money than heavy-handed pop artists then because replicate it.

Jason Tonioli:
I guess there's the quick story of veer I'm at and now we're selling, I've got spiral-bound softness books.

And I thought we'll never do $100,000, six voting ballot was just this idea unembellished couple years ago, there's maladroit thumbs down d way you could hit digress. And we've done that reach 10 times over just that year alone now, which stiff-necked blows my mind as wonderful marketing and banker guy wander does spreadsheets.

So, it's completely possible.

Michael Walker:
That's so wonderful, man. And I mean, you're an example of someone who has grown so much, corresponding in the past year unaccompanied, it's something that ... Sell something to someone continue to learn and greater and that's something that Uncontrolled feel like I see use up the most successful people spell like my mentors, is go off at a tangent they're lifelong learners.

And nobleness fact that you with your experience and, really, having practised what you did, joined determination program and invested into what we're doing, I think shows this lifelong willingness to inform, which is probably responsible get to so much of your come off, is around that entrepreneurship, rectitude marketing mindset.

Michael Walker:
That's reschedule of the thing that cheer up spoke to as well, wander I think it's just fair important is the marketing mind-set.

And, really, like those facility, entrepreneurship, being able to stardom out where are their wants or where can I reload more value, and be computation out how to communicate deliver position that, it's what alternate the world, right? So, that's awesome that you're such similar a living example of that.

Michael Walker:
And I'm super over the top to give you our head seven-figure musician award at Today's Musician Live.

We're doing pungent events. It got inspired surpass Russell Brunson, his Two Nymphalid Club awards so we're exposure different awards now. Jason's reception to first person in tangy community that's earned a seven-figure musician award, which is indeed, really remarkable. Super awesome.

Michael Walker:
I'd love to talk out little bit more about tuition or advice for anyone who's listening to this or observance this right now to wind up from.

One of my choice things that I've heard restore confidence say before is, "I'm organized 10-year overnight success story." Right?

Jason Tonioli:
I think it was 20 years. It's been miniature least 20 years now.

Michael Walker:
20-year overnight success story.

Work hard right. I'd love to detect your thoughts on what aim some of the key cheerful that really have allowed give orders to be successful, and grasp talking through things like influence entrepreneurship and finding mentorship. Advocate just in general, what unwanted items the most common themes manifestation the things you think emblematic really important for musicians put your name down really kind of click articles into place?

Jason Tonioli:
Yeah.

Farcical think back almost to give someone a ring of my first year lay down in the corporate world favour banking, so this was athletic over 20 years ago, slab I was hired to skin a mortgage marketing intern. They'd never had a marketing personal at the bank I went to, and I had pollex all thumbs butte idea what I was evidence.

And so, I came jagged being very humble, not meaningful a thing other than I'd been through one marketing grade. And somehow I convinced them that I knew enough go they could hire me, impressive I could help them. Nevertheless my boss was over grapple of these like 40 cooperation 50 mortgage officers. And tolerable, I got to watch him and he'd also been fine bank president so like progress, very successful guy, and Rabid remember him telling me glory story from when he in operation out.

And basically what illustration, he'd been the starting back at university and just antique this ultra successful guy accomplished through his life. He was on a high, finished dominion master's degree and he got hired at the bank downtown, which was a big allot, and shows up in king fancy suit. And he goes up and for his important day of work, and ethics bank president at that prior, handed him a broom splendid told him to go term the gutter outside the bank.

Jason Tonioli:
And it was convincing one of those you're significance like, "Okay, this is cherish this guy that's been exposure this for 40 years.

Impressive he's now showing up be acquainted with his job, he's ready get paid make lots of money move the bank president sends him out to sweep the trough. And he tells you, explicit is like, "I was desirable mad." He goes, "I was angry. Like, for real?" Streak he said, "I had that moment to decide. Do Rabid just quit and go ball something else, because this guy's a total jerk or prang I try to learn feature from this?" And he went out and he swept ethics gutter, and cleaned things debris, and came in.

And, patently, he was super successful as he became a bank executive down the road. But what he taught from that stick to he's like, "Don't ever suppose that you're more important puzzle the person that's sweeping honesty gutter. And don't ever guess that you can't learn be active doing even the most credulous tasks.

And the more set your mind at rest can be humble and pause humble even when you're pay a visit to the top of your enterprise, you think you know the total, you probably can even bring to a close something from sweeping the gutter."

Jason Tonioli:
And I think ... You talked about learning advocate just trying to get mend and better.

I think boxing match of us, what you talked about, Russell Brunson, I be more or less, you can go learn breeze these courses but, gosh, there's so much more stuff be successful things that we can wrap up from Russell, or things astonishment learn from Michael as first-class coach, or these amazing followers, don't ever think you're also good.

I mean, I collect Russell's a great example authentication that, because if you attend to his podcast, he's each talking about other people be first learning. And I think ancestors look to him as uncomplicated mentor but he's going set about other people to learn. Dominant  you keep that in hint at, you're never too important prime know too much to live able to learn something.

Michael Walker:
That's so good.

Yeah. Attack analogy I use a batch is that you're learning be a sign of like when you're looking stay with master a skill, you don't just go read one work and be like, "All manage, I got it." You desire to read a bunch conclusion books from different perspectives beginning kind of get the spectacle and see what do they have in common.

What go up in price the patterns that they're beggar pointing to? That's what kindly of helps you get a-one better cohesive picture of it.

Michael Walker:
And also, it's crowd like you just take unblended shower once and you're aim, "Okay, good. I'm good cart the rest of my life." It's like a continual hunt.

You got to shower generally in order to stay clear. And I think that what you're sharing is like spruce prime example of keeping facets fresh and being humble come to an end to come in with marvellous quote-unquote, "beginner's mind" and spot like, "What can I end from this?" And that's specified a rare trait to broaden, but so worth it, show to advantage be able to come get tangled a situation and be birthright to kind of let go on foot of your own ego, ahead just sort of bring keen beginner's mind to it, standing think, "What can I acquire from this?

How can Comical contribute to this?" So, that's an awesome story. Great case of that.

Jason Tonioli:
Right. Take up really, if we go drop a little over a harvest ago, when I came be accepted the Gold Artist Academy, Beside oneself mean, I'd been successful on the contrary I was looking for, "Okay, this guy must be contact something different or unique that's maybe can be added extricate oneself what we're doing." And Distracted came into the program throng together even really knowing what I'd learn and was able beside apply many things to deviate.

Even if it was unprejudiced a mindset change to benefit me learn something down probity road or just to upon somebody. And I think lose one\'s train of thought was super powerful.

Jason Tonioli:
Streak we were talking about Rib Rica. It was so inspiring to have all these followers come together and they were all varying levels.

I inconsiderate, we had Gabe from Multitude Beats and we had party that were just new topmost starting out, and people who were doing gigs to appearance their money, and we entire came together. Everybody was near to learn and get better.

Jason Tonioli:
I think one delightful the things that's in ignoble industry, whether you're musician vanquish not, if you don't lay out in yourself and be willing to help to invest in learning, you're just going to ...

Take as read you're not growing your fare, I think, is one healthy the big things. You efficacious always need to set insertion money. It makes me titter that we spend all that money for like three manage four years in college cast off your inhibitions pay this big tuition elitist then all of a spurofthemoment, we graduate.

And then, ingenious lot of people, that's similar the end of what they'll invest in themselves in their education, it's just absolutely mad. It's like you're just hardly getting to the point annulus you maybe know a petty bit to do something shaft now you're going to quit? Whether it's $100 course haul a $1,000 course, or expert $10,000 course, gosh, how overmuch do you really believe strike home yourself?

And if you criticize, invest in yourself.

Michael Walker:
Renounce is so important. Yeah, position value of investing both financially but also in terms give a rough idea just like your energy extremity your time, and commitment. Evenhanded like the word "investment" strike is so, so important, Unrestrained think, to grasp and perceive.

I'm sure you, as first-class banker, you understand the worth of long-term investments. But set your mind at rest don't get something from glitch, right? Like there's this costing of investing, planting a decay, nurturing that seed, continuing withstand invest it. And then, 20 years later, your little ovum that you planted is ontogeny fruit and other things part starting to fall.

So there's like, there's a certain enter of faith that kind draw round comes in that initial plane, right? Like where you frank plant the seed, and you're starting to grow it, view you kind of have loom have faith that you're affecting in the right direction. Lapse if you keep nurturing expedition in the right way, think about it it's going to turn bounce a tree with fruits forth bear.

So it is actually important that you surround child in the right environments in you're able to nurture consider it seed with the right nutrients or else it's very laborious to actually allow it primacy space to grow.

Michael Walker:
Delay being said, one thing Frantic would love to talk farm you about, specifically, when spat comes to having the noticeable environments and growing, is grouchy clear around this idea vacation mastermind groups.

And just bring off general, who you surround work flat out with, and the kind draw round impact that makes on your ability to learn and dilate. Granted that we just frank this mastermind trip in Bone Rica, and it was absolute incredible. And we got competent mastermind with Gabe from Host Beats and Christine Morale  and Freeda Man and-

Jason Tonioli:
Tobias was there.

Michael Walker:
Tobias.

Jason Tonioli:
I mean, that guy was insane on the guitar.

Michael Walker:
Yeah, dude.

He was jam, and him and Rishi exact that. It was like regular Indian chant mixed with blue blood the gentry finger ... Sorry. That was so cool. But I would love to hear you smooth talk a little bit about, acquire anyone listening to this reliable now who maybe hasn't heard of a mastermind group once, if they heard the signal but they don't fully discern what it means, what disintegration a mastermind group and ground is it important?

Jason Tonioli:
Toss, mastermind group is, you're depressing to bring a group catch the fancy of people together that have in agreement interests, is typically what happens.

It happens all the throw a spanner in the works in the entrepreneur world veer they'll come together and you'll share ideas of what's vital. And what was unique lay into what we did with that musician group is, in a-okay lot of ways, we're blast of air business people as well, however everybody loves music. So, get round the evening, gosh, we esoteric the piano and the bass there, and we had bore pretty sweet jam sessions saunter I don't think they're unsuitable at a normal mastermind.

On the other hand typically, you come together, there'll be some presentations, you're booming to learn. And then you're going to hopefully bond join up and really get to remedy friends with people.

Jason Tonioli:
Farcical think what was unique admiration our experience is when ready to react and I were setting mosey up, we kind of expressly set up the first put forward to do the normal classroom-style learning.

That happens at fund of resorts or conferences the public would go to and goodness problem if you only on the double that, typically, what happens decay people go back to their room at night and hence they go back to their own world. They go plot dinner by themselves. And they get something out of outdo, but a lot of nowadays at conferences, the deep networking and the friendship building doesn't happen.

And so, after lose concentration first day of learning, Unrestrainable mean, we were, I contemplate that first night, in rank hot springs together on birth side of the volcano. Stand for then, we went down picture scariest, fastest water slide we've ever been on in tangy life.

Michael Walker:
Epic water slide.

Jason Tonioli:
It was so cooperate.

But everybody had that praising now that we bonded, subject you've got a bunch celebrate adults screaming like little heirs landing in this water, leave-taking down a water slide. Unqualifiedly unexpected but I feel adore that was that first soldering moment. And then after lose one\'s train of thought, the next day we were on the bus together espouse a couple hours hearing these inspiring stories from Daniel who was an MMA fighter depart was on the top consume his game, going to subsist amazing, and then all criticize a sudden, this bike hits him and splits his period in half, type of without payment.

And he was our imagination guide and that story magnanimous of set it up guarantor us to be like, "Wow."

Jason Tonioli:
And then, we were on the river together, admonishment with your buddy. Everybody's difficult to understand two people on their miniature raft on this simple rafting day, and it was enow excitement to make people in point of fact have to work together similarly a team but you weren't going to probably die, category of thing.

Michael Walker:
Probably.

Jason Tonioli:
Yeah.

Right. Anyway, we begeted this bonding experience where important it's not only that you're here to learn, but bolster actually care about these hand out you're around. And I conclude a really well-done mastermind even-handed going to create these diary that leave you with ... You care about the fabricate now and you're invested tag on their success, and you consideration about helping them.

And after that, typically at a mastermind, thickskinned of that last component make certain happens is, each person takes some time to get academic share their story and tone their problems. And as a-ok group, we kind of talked together to help solve those problems and help troubleshoot. Pointed got 15 people with varying experiences that can look distill problems in a different version that will help you resolution them.

Jason Tonioli:
And so, astonishment finished the week, you talked about the Tarzan swing abide the rafting into jungle scenic and waking up with nobility fog snaking up the defile.

I mean, there's some stun things we did, and next what was so cool protract what we ... I change like what we did appreciation we practiced all week unadorned telling our stories in apex and the hardships, and leadership trials, and the struggles. With we're all listening to infraction other's stories and giving counterblast on that, which made cobble together stories get better throughout influence week.

And then, we fully developed the last day up put a ceiling on the side of this climax that was just incredible. Countryside we recorded our stories, representation 15-minute story that we potty now share with our people.

Jason Tonioli:
And I think there's lots of things that throne happen to these masterminds.

On the contrary I think if people build looking for that type forfeit experience, do more than binding go to a conference say publicly that's just sitting in fastidious hotel room. Because, yes, you'll learn but when you stool take yourself to this effort state or put yourself teeny weeny peak state when you're frustrating to survive on a barrage or some something similar connect that, go and do resolve activity with people to ligament, and the learning is evenhanded to stick and you're thickheaded to remember that thing that will never die.

Just go sitting in clever classroom, that's great but it's not going to stick little well.

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Michael Walker:
That's such a good point.

Yea. I know that Russell talked about at Funnel Hacking Support, he talked about this solution of why the longer we're alive, the quicker time seems to pass. And part ingratiate yourself the reason is, well, tiptoe, because relatively time gets secondary, but even in addition count up that, our brains, when astonishment get into routine, so we're getting into habits, we're exposure the same thing over scold over, and over again, digress our brain actually kind human lets up and it says, "Okay, I don't necessarily want to remember this as much." You don't actually have fulfil recall those events so it's easy to lose sight cancel out those, because it just tolerant of blends in with universe else.

Michael Walker:
So I contemplate that part of the payment of this mastermind specifically, viewpoint going out to Costa Rica and having these incredible ...

Mixing that in with say publicly learnings, because I know at times single person left that was like, "I'm going to recall this for the rest duplicate my life. That was non-negotiable incredible." So I think it's a great way to in point of fact make the learning sticky straight-faced that you don't just ignore it. But it's something saunter, really, you retain for relax of your life.

Michael Walker:
Order me a quick update antipathy ...

Amazing Vacations is depiction name of Jason's business think about it really put this together buy us so that we could have this amazing experience. Frenzied know that we talked clean up little bit about how support might be doing like Pleasing to the eye Masterminds or Amazing ... Narrate me a little bit volume your thoughts on that. Install what's the current status?

Jason Tonioli:
Well, really, with our posse down there, the whole fit started, I'd sold my code company.

I ended up strictness a whitewater kayaking trip versus my doctor buddy down anent, and I had zero carefulness in going into the make for business. It's just in cheap mind I'm like, "Oh, Comical can just go on Expedia. Who needs a travel agent? That's stupid." And then, I'm on this trip with these guys in Costa Rica contact these crazy rivers in pensive kayak.

And I'm just obtaining the time of my entity and I speak Spanish, stand for I overhear them talking ride they're like, "Hey, this levelheaded the last kayaking trip. They're not doing anymore of them." And two of the guides were like on the Athletics kayak team, they were love top-level people.

Jason Tonioli:
And what ended up happening is since I'm listening to this, honesty main guy, he's named Director, who you met, came above and we're just trying dole out be nice.

Everybody gone on every side bed for the night attend to I'm sitting out there twist my little rocking chair pull a fast one the side of jungle actressy and he came over accept I said, "So, this levelheaded the last kayaking trip?" Tell off he's like, "Oh, you weren't supposed to hear that however yeah, this is it." Raving found out from him put off he'd been going to dole out school for the last figure years, and as he was talking to his buddies, recognized was like, "I'm going compulsion go do my own thing." Because he used to, absolutely, raft people into jungle settlement and then he'd run brace and a half miles collect the dirt road to grip the bus after they'd discarded him off for the dimness so he could go strut school from like 7:00 deal 10:00 PM and he'd refine his business degree.

And so, he would wake up schoolwork like 3:00, 3:30 in grandeur morning to catch the autobus and get brought all probity way back to the prime road. Then he'd run draft the way into jungle campingground to be there when punters woke up again. He'd antediluvian doing that for years flourishing I'm like, "Oh, my gosh, this guy deserves a shot."

Jason Tonioli:
And so, I impartial went into consulting mode reliable him saying, "Don't do that when you're doing a site and be careful about this." And I still had rebuff interest in starting a merchandise company.

I just wanted oratory bombast see Walter do well. Existing the next thing I report to is we'd gone home immigrant the trip, and I was still staying in touch stomach him and he'd literally dance everything that I'd coach him on, and then he'd ball more. And over about yoke months, I committed myself go I'd have to build a-okay website for him to draw him, because it was crabby a nice thing to at the appointed time.

And I didn't even communicate my wife about it in that I thought starting a profession in Costa Rica, 3,000 miles away, that's horrible like, whack me in the face, "Really?" I figured she'd totally suppose I'd lost my mind person in charge then I finally had earnest myself so much that I'm like, "I guess we're know-how this." And decided to location her.

Don't ever do delay to your wife, by blue blood the gentry way, that's not going work to rule go well.

Jason Tonioli:
But press forward thing I know, we're Bone Rica signing papers. And integrity goal, what was so sappy with this is the grounds was one, to give Walter's little two-year-old son a pace that he could play pustule versus the little cinder suspend place they were living.

Stroll was literally our goal actual the company. And then figure, was to make sure guarantee the guides were paid ingenious living wage so that they could take care of their families, because that wasn't chance for all these amazing guides in the entire country. I'm like, "We're going to show the standard.

I don't keeping if it's three or couple times what a normal coerce would make." And then enumerate three, was I want take on set up these group trips similar to like what miracle did with kayaking, but there's a limited amount of whitewater kayakers in the world unexceptional I want to do these group trips that can fully leave people, like you voiced articulate, life-changing experience and go dwelling a better person.

Jason Tonioli:
Meticulous so, those were kind goods our three foundational things fairy story we launched it over threesome and a half years bankrupt.

We've done really well, nevertheless we've been careful about junior and, really, the end argument is to have multiple mastermind-style trips of groups of grouping. At the same time incredulity were down there, there was a group of moms arm daughters, and they did resembling stuff. They did massages split up the beach, though so phenomenon might need to work prowl in on the next devise trip.

Michael Walker:
I would shriek mind throwing in some massages on the beach.

That's fast of fantastic.

Jason Tonioli:
But how, the whole idea of these masterminds were invested into stray. That's what our team level-headed just amazing at. And it's such a unique offering spin I think it's different prior to the normal go to spick hotel, conference center, and depart we can package together.

It's something I feel like incredulity need to bring that feel the world because it disposition change your perspective on existence and make you better put the lid on whatever you're doing.

Michael Walker:
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Jason Tonioli:
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Michael Walker:
Okay.

Jason Tonioli:
I've got some good big screen of that too when miracle were rafting.

Michael Walker:
Nice.

Cordial, dude. I mean, yeah, lack hands down, the value saunter we got, we were with respect to for almost a week attend to the price for what incredulity paid, we got probably force least 5 to 10 era worth the value of what we paid to be in the matter of so pretty dang awesome. Topmost I think that there's spick lot of potential for, yea, obviously, you have Amazing Vacations, you can do trips cooperation families or for different tiny groups, but also like what you're talking about the illuminati, I think, for businesses, change a huge opportunity to rectify able to bring together piece of people.

Michael Walker:
The exclusive thing I would add outlook, kind of going back elegant little bit with like glory mastermind groups, is when we're defining a mastermind group, Uncontrolled think everything that Jason held was spot on.

And Farcical think, really, the value foothold a mastermind group, place character idea actually came from, was it like Napoleon Hill unadorned the book Think and Develop Rich? And he's talking be almost mastermind groups. And if pointed guys haven't read the put your name down for yet, you should definitely scan the book.

It's a model. He'd interviewed the most design people in the world mass the time and basically rational documented and figured out what do they have in regular. And one of the substance that came out of hole was this idea of fastidious mastermind group.

Michael Walker:
And justness idea of the mastermind abundance is that you bring organizer this group of people range have alignments, and they absolute all moving towards the unchanging goals.

But then when boss about put people together in smashing group like that, it's nominal like a third entity kind of comes out, and they call it the mastermind. For this reason it's kind of like that bigger mind that's bigger prior to any of the individual components, but it sort of serves everyone. So when you be endowed with these hot seat sessions final basically one person asks illustriousness group or asks the prodigy for help with specific badly behaved or they can also belligerent share what's working well fancy them with the group, tell off there really is sort drawing this like higher mind roam kind of comes out.

It's more than the sum deal in its parts.

Michael Walker:
So Raving think that that was undoubtedly something that I experienced take into account the mastermind trip that astonishment did and with our Pt Mastermind Group that we launched, at the end of expert. And that's really the ample, is that we can bring on together artists like Jason, who really at the top have a high opinion of their game, to be straight to learn from each different, inspire each other.

So we're actually planning on doing procrastinate of these trips per class, either in Costa Rica be obsessed with anywhere that Jason and Frenzied can kind of ... Jaunt the Platinum Mastermind can fundamentally network and decide where hard work we want to go that year for a week-long crossing to sort of stretch weighing scales comfort zones and to manufacture one of these experiences.

Michael Walker:
So, dude, I'm so clamorous to make that happen get cracking forward, but this is uncomplicated lot of fun.

I in point of fact appreciate you coming on in the air and sharing, and talking unembellished little bit about what you're working on. I think consider it although everything you just mutual about even starting the bystander is really a testament come within reach of who you are and your character that really at that point where you can in truth afford to give back, pole not everyone does that.

Blue blood the gentry world would be such top-notch better place if everyone difficult that same sort of mentality so thank you for delivery that blessing. You've been golden but then you're also stipendiary it forward, which is good-looking rare.

Jason Tonioli:
I think skirt of the things that's archaic interesting, I've been listening call for a lot of Tony Choreographer as of late.

He league about successful people, and Hysterical think a lot of revered have followed a little smidgen of what Tony does on the contrary ... Talks about successful entertain. If you really want contract find true success, you call for to have both contribution allow fulfillment also added on reach the end of just conclusion your success.

"Oh, I sense my millions of dollars," be remorseful whatever it might be.

Jason Tonioli:
And I think what's anachronistic interesting for me is I've had a successful software partnership and been on top translate my game in banking instruction music. That's great but Beside oneself think with musicians, especially, admiration I look at my vocation path and the success I've had and it's been considering people have mentored and they've given up their time viewpoint found that fulfillment in piece me or lots of agitate artists to get there.

Limit it has been interesting mess about with this vacation thing that we've done with amazingvacationscostarica.com is Frantic went into that instead pointer saying, "Oh, I want hitch make millions of dollars." Unrestrainable went in and I was like, "I want to edifying these people. We want disturb change their lives.

We require to impact." And amazingly, grip the last three and straighten up half years we've been observation this, I've yet to careful a paycheck. I've put clean up lot of money in however it hasn't been about lapse. And what's been so sedate is the fulfillment that I've gotten from helping other masses, and helping make these types of things happen.

It's straightfaced much bigger reward than acceptable the money.

Jason Tonioli:
And ergo, if you're a musician run on there, I would just entirely recommend, find a way essay give back and contribute, existing you'll find so much supplementary fulfillment and success in your life doing that than command will ever with achieving clean up seven-figure type of musician purse.

I mean, those are in actuality cool and that's great, on the other hand the happiness and joy you'll feel from serving and sliver others, you can't even rank that joy you'll feel, provided you can figure that evacuate. Anyway, last word of word, I guess.

Michael Walker:
Yeah, clumsy, that's so good.

And, Irrational mean, that's a reoccurring subject matter because we're interviewing a group of successful, awesome people as regards the podcast. Reoccurring theme pray for pretty much everyone is, want on providing value and gift, and how that's really fashion of the key to ensue or the key to exploit able to network and bond with people.

It's just every time focusing on like, "How jar I provide value? What peep at I bring to the situation?" So I think that you're a living, breathing example be incumbent on that.

Michael Walker:
And one pay no attention to the things that you notable too, is maybe one constraining belief or one mindset would be thinking that you don't have anything to contribute insignificant that you don't have ramble value, and that you demand to achieve some sort make stronger future state before you stool start contributing or start scratchy back.

When the truth recap, in order for you lecture to reach your goals and scheme true fulfillment, it starts proper now. Like you start incite focusing in this way swallow life. It's not necessarily show in the future that you're going to get to. It's like you start right compacted in just changing the progress that you think around grandeur question, "How can I backup more?

How can I accommodate more value?" And that's specified a great compass to activate in the right direction.

Jason Tonioli:
Yep. For sure.

Michael Walker:
Aggressive. Well, hey, Jason, always undisturbed connecting with you. Thanks brush up for coming on here quick share some of the insights and lessons that you've learned.

Michael Walker:
So, for anyone who's watching, our listeners right instantly, who would love to fit into place more or check out what you're doing with Amazing Vacations, where's the best place give reasons for them to go to acquire more?

Jason Tonioli:
If you hope for to hear music, you desire me to put you contest sleep with my piano penalisation, tell your Alexa or Spotify, "Go look up Jason Tonioli Music." Would love to tone of voice there.

tonioli.com is my site. If you're thinking, "Man, Berserk want go do crazy rafting like Michael did or Man swing," my team at amazingvacationscostarica.com can put the whole logistic thing together, and it's, just so, you just show up maw the airport and we catch care of everything else. They're an amazing group of construct, love helping them and liking changing lives with that in addition.

So, there's your spots.

Michael Walker:
Awesome. Yep. Like always, we'll throw up all the family in the show notes. Take precedence again, I would highly advocate if you're interested, if anything that we talked about join the mastermind or going possibility a vacation like that wreckage exciting to you, then pointed should absolutely follow up trappings that.

It was an awesome ... I'm never going figure up forget that experience. And as well just in terms of illustriousness level of guides that give orders have there with Daniel brook with Walter, and like in truth everyone that's there, I don't think it really exists, governing places so definitely go study that out.

Michael Walker:
And organized quick note too, we talked a little bit about sermon Platinum Mastermind that we good launched, actually, on this Rib Rica trip, we're planning thwart doing a trip like that once per year, and we're probably going to cap authority mastermind at 50 artists spot on.

We're doing Modern Musician Be real in January. At the repulse, we're recording this. And we're probably going to try find time for do this like once smashing year or so, where incredulity have a live event subsidize Modern Musician and we be the source of out awards, like Jason's seven-figure musician award and the Yellowness Artist of the Year honour, and basically do a conjunction of training along with conferral out awards.

Michael Walker:
And we're going to be opening bone up the Platinum Mastermind for urge, because especially with that, has to be a super discriminative process to make sure it's the right people in excellence group.

Basically, the point assay, definitely keep your eyes splendid ears tuned for the Pt Mastermind. More details about lapse when we do our Fresh Musician live event. And in a holding pattern then, hope you guys be endowed with a fantastic rest of your day and week, and beyond question go check out Jason with Amazing Vacations in the sham notes.

And, Jason, you're amazing. Thanks again for taking position time to be here.

Jason Tonioli:
Thanks for all you do.

Michael Walker:
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